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      Porsche 991.2 suspension upgrades? Coilovers, springs, GT3 toe arm, etc.?

      Yo @quattr0 get in here.

      We need to get a list of suspension upgrades going.

      People are saying the Bilstein coilovers available aren't much of an improvement on the factory system they just drop the car a bunch.

      I have H&R Springs and those should be installed next week and we will see what a difference those make.

      What else is available? What are the recommended starting points?




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      I was planning on GT3 lower cotnrol arm, front and rear anti-roll bars and alignment. No sprimgs as i dont want it to be lower since Im ok w the way it looks and not going to track.

      You might want to check.w TPC if they fix the issue w dsc tuning for sunroof equip car.


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      Click here to enlargeOriginally Posted by quattr0Click here to enlarge

      I was planning on GT3 lower cotnrol arm, front and rear anti-roll bars and alignment.

      These make that big of a difference?

      I'll probably do the same thing as you when the time comes.

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      @Sprchng any suggestions?




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      Click here to enlargeOriginally Posted by StickyClick here to enlarge

      These make that big of a difference?

      I guess will see soon....I plan to proceed early next year. Gotta take care of some maintenance routines on the n54 first. It has passed 100k.

      Supposedly the cornering should be better than stock....even tho I already enjoy how stock handles lol



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      I have the H&R Springs. Put them on the car after just 150 miles, therefore not much data to compare against OEM. The ride height is great, however the ride can get a little bumpy on the $#@!ty SoCal freeways (such as the 405 in West LA).

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      Click here to enlargeOriginally Posted by F16HTONClick here to enlarge

      I have the H&R Springs. Put them on the car after just 150 miles, therefore not much data to compare against OEM. The ride height is great, however the ride can get a little bumpy on the $#@!ty SoCal freeways (such as the 405 in West LA).

      That looks so good! I have the same springs. Happy with the choice based on that pic.

      Unhappy I didn't get guards red though.

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      Click here to enlargeOriginally Posted by StickyClick here to enlarge

      @Sprchng any suggestions?

      What are you guys trying to improve on? Steering feedback, feel, comfort, roll, appearance?

      Still lovin my Damptronic Bilstein coilovers. Firmer than OEM PASM, but smooth ride and still good for daily driving.

      Different wheels / tires can also make an impact on steering feel. My 21" Vossens on PSS tires are pretty heavy compared to OEM, but the steering feels really nice. I am not one to like light steering cars.

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      Click here to enlargeOriginally Posted by SprchngClick here to enlarge

      I am not one to like light steering cars.

      Was one of my main complaints on the stock 911. Felt light without any weight up front. I got used to it though.

      Click here to enlargeOriginally Posted by SprchngClick here to enlarge

      Still lovin my Damptronic Bilstein coilovers. Firmer than OEM PASM, but smooth ride and still good for daily driving.

      Are they a big improvement over the stock system in handling performance or mostly for a better ride when lowered?



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      TechArt springs are a popular choice with many 991 owners. I have installed the Bilstein B16 ride control on a couple of cars and the ride was pretty decent, slight improvement over OEM PASM.

      I'm interested in getting the DSC Sport PASM controller.


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      Click here to enlargeOriginally Posted by StickyClick here to enlarge

      Was one of my main complaints on the stock 911. Felt light without any weight up front. I got used to it though.



      Are they a big improvement over the stock system in handling performance or mostly for a better ride when lowered?

      They are more of a performance upgrade than appearance - although you do get the lower vehicle height that most people want.
      The Bisltein coilovers are tuned together since Bilstein sets the spring rates and shock valving of the kit.
      When you install lowering springs on any stock shock/strut, you are relying on the spring manufactures rates to be compatible with the stock shock valving, and you are also reducing the travel of the shock. The stock shocks are meant for stock springs, so when you lower the car and reduce the rate of travel, you are going to have a more bouncy ride and will prematurely wear out your shocks. Some get around the bounciness by cutting bump stops, but ultimately this will still wear out the shocks and cause a harsh ride.

      Lowering springs are fine if you are going for looks, or its a lease and you plan to trade in within a few years.
      But if you want to maximize performance, ride, comfort, etc then coilovers are the way to go.



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      Response from TPC in regards to sunroof issue
      I don't believe it has been resolved yet. We just picked up a 991.2 Turbo S. I'm not sure if it has a sunroof, but if it does we should be able to sort it out soon. *fingers crossed
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      Click here to enlargeOriginally Posted by quattr0Click here to enlarge

      Response from TPC in regards to sunroof issue
      I don't believe it has been resolved yet. We just picked up a 991.2 Turbo S. I'm not sure if it has a sunroof, but if it does we should be able to sort it out soon. *fingers crossed
      https://ssl.gstatic.com/ui/v1/icons/...s/cleardot.gif

      What exactly is the issue?



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      The sunroof actually does have a piece that will raise for aerodynamics LoL It's controlled by CAN command via the PASM controller. The DSC controller does not raise that piece so it will throw error on dash. The error goes away once you close the roof.

      Gotta love technology.


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      Click here to enlargeOriginally Posted by quattr0Click here to enlarge

      The sunroof actually does have a piece that will raise for aerodynamics LoL It's controlled by CAN command via the PASM controller. The DSC controller does not raise that piece so it will throw error on dash. The error goes away once you close the roof.

      Gotta love technology.

      But if the roof is closed the whole time no error?



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      Click here to enlargeOriginally Posted by StickyClick here to enlarge

      But if the roof is closed the whole time no error?

      Correct.

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      Click here to enlargeOriginally Posted by F16HTONClick here to enlarge

      Correct.

      Never open the damn thing so no big deal I guess.

      Just wondering if it doesn't make more sense to get coilovers than bother with this module. Skeptical of it.



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      Click here to enlargeOriginally Posted by StickyClick here to enlarge

      Never open the damn thing so no big deal I guess.

      Just wondering if it doesn't make more sense to get coilovers than bother with this module. Skeptical of it.

      I'm more skeptical of aftermarket coil-overs, even from industry giants such as Bilstein and KW.

      Even though the B16 ride control is compatible with the OEM electronics, there are just two points of adjustability (sport and regular).

      I chose not to install them on my car (would have been free to me) because somebody that we both know with a graphite blue 991.2 had plenty of issues with his.

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      Click here to enlargeOriginally Posted by F16HTONClick here to enlarge

      I'm more skeptical of aftermarket coil-overs, even from industry giants such as Bilstein and KW.

      Even though the B16 ride control is compatible with the OEM electronics, there are just two points of adjustability (sport and regular).

      I chose not to install them on my car (would have been free to me) because somebody that we both know with a graphite blue 991.2 had plenty of issues with his.

      Good info, thanks.

      Maybe we need to wait for another solution to come on the market?

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    Detailansicht der Zugstufeneinstellung eines KW Gewindefahrwerks Variante 3 für den Porsche 911 (991)



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    Detailansicht der Druckstufeneinstellung eines KW Gewindefahrwerks Variante 3 für den Porsche 911 (991)



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    KW Gewindefahrwerk Clubsport 3-Fach für den Porsche 911 (991)



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    In addition to the aluminum Unibal top mounts for setting the ideal camber angle on your track day, you can also configure the dampers targeted to the respective track. In addition to the rebound damping with 16-clicks, with the KW Clubsport 3-way you can go even further in detail of the suspension setup.



    Detailaufnahme eines KW Gewindefahrwerk Clubsport 3-Fach für den Porsche 911 (991)



    Two separate valves and a 2-way adjustable compression stage valve allow an adjustment of the compression stage separately in low speed and high speed. The settings are made via two adjustment wheels with a click system in the valve housing, which feature 14 clicks for the high speed range and six clicks in the low-speed range.



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